Members Present: M. Ferris-Young, D. Brown, M. Houseman, C. Gornowich,
J. Hickey, Chairman; C. Rypma, T. Greeno, and S. Versluis. Absent: M.
Huizenga.
Also Present: S. Conners, City Engineer, F. Wash, Planning Director,
and P. Dlouhy, Planning Asst.
Chairman Hickey called the meeting to order, and C. Rypma gave the
invocation. Member Rypma prayed for Member Huizenga and his current
health condition.
General Public Comments
There were no comments at this time.
Approval of Minutes – November 1, 2006
Motion by C. Gornowich, supported by C. Rypma, to approve the minutes
of the November 1st, 2006 meeting as printed. Motion carried.
Case #05-448 – Central Place – Tentative Preliminary
Plat - tabled 6-21-06
Motion by S. Versluis, supported by T. Greeno, to remove this item
from the table. Motion carried.
Chairman Hickey read the application for Tentative Preliminary Plat
for Central Place, a proposed subdivision containing 15 lots, located
north of Mission St., east of Kinney and an extension of Stark Ave.
Planner Wash gave a power point presentation and reviewed the
procedural aspects of the request and that this is step 1 of 3, dealing
with the preliminary site design and site analysis. Wash reviewed the
staff report and gave a project update relating that the project had
been tabled on 6-21-06 due to 3 concerns: wetland/drainage issues,
further review of Stark Avenue extension, and better buffering. Included
with the staff reports were Engineering, Police and Fire reports.
Wash related that the new developer, Dan Engelsma of Engelsma Homes,
met with the neighbors on site, and has since revised the site plans
with a reduction in the number of lots from 18 to 15. The developer has
improved the buffer, and has completed a storm water and wetlands
management plan.
Wash related that staff has recommended a conditional approval and
forwarding to the City Commission.
Kevin Knibbe, developer for Engelsma Homes, and Dan Engelsma,
President and founder of the company were present on behalf of the
request.
Mr. Engelsma gave the background and history of his residential
company, and related that he has built in the Grand Rapids area for many
years. He related that they purchased the subject property last summer
and built a home on Kinney Ave. He reviewed examples of homes built by
his company and types that could be built in this proposed development,
including 2 story homes and ranch style, daylight basement design with
2-stall garages, custom cabinetry, natural and brick or stone front
exterior options, etc, price range $230,000-$300,000. The market will
determine the prices of homes in Central Place.
Mr. Engelsma related that he had reviewed past Planning Commission
minutes and has held discussions with staff regarding concerns about the
east end of the property. He reviewed the plans and related that the
past plans showed lots on this east end, and this is now a natural flood
plain area handling the run off. There are now 4 lots proposed on the
east end of the property. He reviewed the proposed detention basin on
the east end of the property and that it will address drainage concerns.
Engelsma then reviewed the 10’ landscaped buffer easement and the 10’
conservation easement and the southwest and north sides, where
vegetation and trees will be untouched. The additional 10’ will be
completed after the final grading of the plan for a total of a 20’
buffer. Mr. Engelsma stated that he understands the concerns of the
Mission Street residents regarding back yard flooding. He feels with
more detention this will be worked out as well.
Paul Hendershot, the developer’s engineer, then summarized the
traffic report and related that the proposed development is expected to
generate 20 trips during the morning peak hours and 19 trips during the
afternoon peak hour. Vehicles are not expected to cut through the
existing neighborhood to the south of Mission Street to access Leonard
St. or Remembrance Road, as this would be a very inefficient route. The
majority of the trips to and from the development will either access
Kinney Ave. via Mission St. or Fenwick St., or will access Remembrance
Road via Stark Ave. or Fenwick St. The amount of trips generated by the
residential development is minimal, therefore minor traffic volumes will
be added to these streets.
Chairman Hickey asked if there would be an outlet to Kinney? Planner
Wash stated that at this point there is no option to connect to Kinney.
Member Versluis stated that the house on Kinney is not typical of
what he has seen Engelsma build. He asked if the examples shown by the
developer would be ones actually built? Mr. Engelsma stated that the
house on Kinney was a unique situtation with a smaller $159,000 home
which is not typical of what they would build at $200,000 – $240,000 +
the lot. ($60,000-$65,000).
Member Gornowich referred to the first point in Scott Connors memo
dated 11-28-06, regarding the 10’ landscaped buffer being in conflict
with the 20’ drainage easement that surrounds Stark Court West. Scott
stated yes, the developer is ambitious about putting in the 10’ buffer.
He felt it could be worked out with the developer putting in as many
trees as he can without jeopardizing the building envelope size or the
backyard drainage swale.
Chairman Hickey asked about the water situation? Scott Conners
explained the need to model the 100 year storm and would like to see
that in this development. He felt this was underway and would have to be
tweaked to make that happen.
Chairman Hickey referred to Item 3 in Scott Conners memo, and felt
that the traffic shouldn’t be a problem in this development with 2
access points. Scott stated that the volumes shouldn’t be any higher
than 150 trips per day. (15 lots = 150 trips). Scott related that the
police and fire reports recommend making Stark a through street. He felt
that cut through and by-pass traffic will be very limited, with mostly
local traffic. Hickey stated that the cul-de-sac connection to Stark
Avenue at a 90-degree connection would allow for a stacking of 2-3 cars.
Conners stated that he doesn’t want to see any more than 90 degrees at
this connection.
Member Brown stated that on Mission and Stark, looking to the north,
there is currently quite a bit of water there where the road is
proposed. Conners stated that the area next to 3895 Mission is a storm
water drainage area that flows to the east, and there is flood plain
loss there. The area will need to be filled in and Lot 15 needs to be
accounted for in the storm flood plain easement on that lot with small
drains to the backs of those lots.
Member Greeno stated that last time we reviewed this, we talked about
the drop of the road to a reasonable grade from Mission on up to the
other side. Scott Conners stated that a 6% steep grade is the maximum
allowed and felt that this grade was 4%. The developer’s engineer agreed
that it is a 4% grade.
Member Versluis asked, what is and what is not allowed in the
conservation easement, and who monitors it? In the past, he felt that
nothing could be built within a conversation area. Scott Conners stated
that buildings cannot be built in this do not disturb area, and no trees
disturbed. He related that it is monitored by the DEQ.
Member Versluis stated that he is glad to see that Engelsma Homes
will be building, as they have good craftsmanship and will build a
beautiful home.
Chairman Hickey opened the meeting for a limited number of public
comments, as significant public testimony was taken on 6-21-06.
Cathy Farhat, 1755 Stark, stated that she is not opposed to this
development. She is intensely opposed to the opening of Stark and has
previously provided a petition with 80 signatures regarding same. She
feels that cul-de-sacs are still desired, she treasures the quietness,
and the Planning Commission still approves them. Their safety will be
compromised with the additional traffic of 150 cars per day, and there
are no sidewalks and no shoulders. The streets are used by the elderly
and disabled to take walks, stroller rides, dog walks, etc. She feels it
is currently adequate for them. People will short cut on Stark, and
destroy the integrity of the neighborhood. She stated that change for
the sake of change always isn’t change for the better.
Jean King, 3845 Mission, stated that she has questions about the
water issue with the 40’ wide river behind her house. She asked, has the
DEQ been notified and what was the recommendation? What will happen to
the water in this area?
Scott Conners stated that he looked at this area, and the beauty of
the new layout presents much more than wetlands (floodplain). With a big
storm he wants adequate areas to be protected, and this developer has
gone above and beyond the requirements. They have worked with the DEQ on
this area. Scott related that Bob Day of the DEQ has reviewed the plans
and proposed fill of the drain, and that was Day’s only recommendation.
Jean stated that she has concern with Lot 15 and its close proximity to
the drainage easement and the house there, as well as all of the
existing houses. She asked, will a retaining wall protect Lot 15 from
the water? She is concerned about water coming back up into their yards,
fearing a funneling effect, a gush of rain and the stream swells
quickly.
Mr. Engelsma stated that they have given the first option to sell
that lot for what they have into it to the neighbors. If they are not
interested in purchasing it, Mr. Engelsma has an obligation to develop
it in a manner that follows the City of Walker Ordinance.
The developer’s engineer stated that adjacent to Lot 15, there will
be a retaining wall to minimize the impact along that line. He explained
that it is a flood plain and floodway with fast moving water along the
drain, then it fans out. Any fill that would be in there gradually will
be outside of that flood zone. He related that the 100 year flood plains
goes right through there.
Scott Conners stated that he took the applicant’s stormwater 100-year
analysis and it shows how far that expands. He stated that Jean King
will be most affected, with most of her back yard under water for a
short time. He wants to make sure that with Lot 15, that the existing
high water level doesn’t get any higher.
Member Gornowich asked, how do the residents south of this
development feel about this Stark connection? Jean King stated that she
feels the cul-de-sac makes for a nicer neighborhood and prefers to have
a cul-de-sac. She asked if it was possible for Lot 15 to be moved to the
cul-de-sac?
Member Houseman stated that the new Lot 15 is at the same elevation
as Jean King’s property at 738’-739’. He felt that if we get a 100-year
floodplain event, that it will spread to Lot 15. Scott Conners stated
that we have to make sure that we have zero impact. Member Houseman
asked if we could create a better screen between the 2 lots or work with
the DEQ? Scott related this development will not flow freely as it does
today. He indicated that water will be directed to this new area via
storm sewer and detention behind Lots 13 & 14 behind the back yards to
accommodate water in order to build on Lot 15. Scott stated the drainage
will be addressed on Lot 15 or will not be allowed to be buildable.
Scott related that their engineer will seals the plans in the final
step. Member Houseman stated he expects zero impact or he will not
support it.
Member Rypma asked if a storm sewer could be utilized in there? Scott
Conners stated that it should remain a natural low area with ditches,
which is an integral part of drainage. He related that the current
thinking is to go back to these ditches instead of storm sewer. Member
Rypma asked, with the conservation easement, isn’t there a lot of room
for the water to go?
Mr. Engelsma stated that with regard to Lot 15, they were going to
leave it at its original elevation to keep it natural. If that is what
Member Houseman wants, they can do that. He offered that lot to the
neighbors at a reasonable price. Member Houseman stated it wasn’t an
ultimatum. Mr. Engelsma felt that they tried to give the neighbors more.
He stated that the engineering will take care of it. Member Houseman
stated that the engineering will have to be creative to make this work
on Lot 15 without impacting the existing yards of Lot 100 & 101.
Mr. Engelsma agrees with the zero impact.
Member Greeno referenced the 2 letters from the fire and police
department and that they both are in agreement that Stark should be a
through street for emergency purposes. Greeno doesn’t feel that cut
through traffic will be a problem. Member Houseman asked in which
direction a cul-de-sac would go? Who would get 100% of the traffic?
North or South?
Scott Conners stated that he is looking traffic-calming for various
areas around the City with regard to roundabouts, speed humps, and road
narrowing on purpose. He related that Fenwick is on the radar screen for
traffic calming with narrowing of the intersection and tapering down. He
stated that he will be working on this with this neighborhood if they
buy into it.
Mr. Farhat, 1755 Stark Ave., stated that the City allowed these
builders to build a house on Kinney Ave. before this project came to be,
and that could have been an access. He stated that the residents rely on
the Planning Commission to take care of them. He asked, why would they
take 2 acres in the middle of this congested area when there is 70% of
vacant land to utilize? He asked, why couldn’t this be a parkland?
Chairman Hickey stated that he has been on this Planning Commission
for 20 years and has always taken into consideration the safety of the
citizens of Walker. He stated that we also have to listen to the
developer who owns the land. We achieve a balance by applying our
ordinances.
Member Houseman stated that by opening up Stark to Old Mission is not
a straight run, it is curved. Member Rypma stated it has always been the
intent to connect the dead ends of Stark.
Motion by Gornowich, supported by M. Ferris-Young, to recommend
approval to the Walker City Commission for the tentative preliminary
plat dated 11-21-06 for the Central Place Plat, as it does meet the
standards set forth in the City of Walker Subdivision Regulation
Ordinance with the following conditions of tentative preliminary plat
approval:
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City Planning
Director’s letter dated 11-27-06.
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City
Engineer’s letter dated 11-28-06.
The following Findings of Fact:
The 15 proposed single-family residential lots will meet the
requirements of the Walker Zoning Ordinance.
The Stark Avenue connection is in the best interest of the City
of Walker due to enhanced public safety and service access,
dispersal of traffic instead of concentrating trips at one
intersection at peak hours and a low risk of the connection creating
a mass bypass or cut-through situation through established
neighborhoods.
The onsite wetlands will be protected under a conservation
easement dedicated to the City of Walker.
Public utilities and stormwater drainage will be provided in a
manner conducive to protect the public’s safety and welfare.
Motion carried unanimously 8-0.
Case #04-371 – Summerbrooke Estates – Final
Prelimiinary Plat
Chairman Hickey read the application for final preliminary plat
approval for Phase I of Summerbrooke Estates, containing 25 lots and
located east of Kinney, and south of Leonard St.
Planner Wash reviewed the staff report, the plans, and gave a power
point presentation. He reviewed the procedural aspects of the request
and indicated that this is step 2 of 3. He related that some time ago
the project was held up for a variety of reasons, the main reason was
the street connection under the power lines.
Wash indicated the project proposes 25 lots south of Leonard and east
of Kinney with public street extension of Macey and Sydney Drives with
no connection to Sunrise Lane or 10th St. due to power lines
and wetlands.
Chairman Hickey asked about access to Kinney? Planner Wash stated
there will be Phase 2 access to Kinney via Thornwyk.
Developer Rick Miller and Matt Cole of Focus Engineering were present
on behalf of the request.
Matt Cole reviewed the changes from a couple of years ago, and
related that there is no connection to 10th Street to Sunset
Hills Plat. They will connect Sydney Dr. out to Kinney, and in Phase 2
to Thornwyk Dr.
Matt Cole related that storm sewer is difficult in the final
preliminary plat, and if we proceed we will begin at that point. Matt
Cole stated that the Drain Commission did approve all previous drainage
issues on East Avery Ct., and they ran catch basins down every third
lot. Where it abuts East Avery Ct., they will lower the water 1’ to
catch basins. The Drain Commission wants a floodway to the north over to
Sunset Hills Estates.
Scott Conners reviewed his memo dated 11-28-06, and related that they
did try to get a street connection to the east but the power lines hung
too low. They met with Consumers Power and Walker staff and it was
determined unfeasible. Conners related that part of the detention for
this development is in Arbor Estates #1, and part of this area is master
planned into that detention pond. He related that the plan lacks some
grades along adjacent property lines. Conners has asked for additional
and proposed grades so as not to affect existing or future backyard
drainage situations. In the grading and soil erosion plan is where we
would look for master grading plan. New catch basins are required for
Lots 10 through 18, with proposed contours at 1’ intervals. Rim
elevations are needed for all back yard catch basins along the west side
of Sidney Drive and compared to the proposed grades to ensure positive
drainage in these backyard swales.
Matt Cole stated that they did have 1’ contours on those lots as
Arbor Estates is so flat. Matt stated that the proposed catch basins are
bowl shaped, and he doesn’t perceive any other problems with this.
Chairman Hickey stated that we rely on Scott Conners for the drainage
resolutions. Conners stated that there is a difference of opinion of 1%
to 2% on back yards across swales and drainage easements as they have
designed ˝% fall which is minimal. He would like a little more slope
there. He wants to see that the water gets to the catch basins with a 1’
of fall in those backyards.
Chairman Hickey asked if we are comfortable with 4 or 5 cul-de-sacs
for 40 lots? Planner Wash stated yes, with short cul-de-sacs there is no
harm done.
Member Rypma asked, what about Macey going through to Sydney? Wash
related that street connection means that we have redundant and
intelligent access to sites. He feels there is a primary interconnection
of streets here. Scott Conners added that staff was satisfied with
redundant access as shown.
Member Gornowich asked if there was concern with the length of
Sydney, a temporary cul-de-sac, until future connection to Thornwyk?
Scott Conners stated that typically we use the first phase of the plat,
typically 25 lots, knowing that in the second phase we will get the
future connection.
Member Houseman stated that he was concerned about the grades on this
plan.
He reviewed the bowl on Lot 16, and the drainage pattern from Lots
10-15 moving to the north in that direction. Scott Conners reviewed the
drainage patterns of these lots and indicated that the grading and
erosion plan doesn’t have the elevations and he would like to see the
rim elevations. With no grade change, he wants to make sure it doesn’t
negatively impact the neighbors. He would like the developer to put in
sock-under drain.
Matt Cole stated that they had all of the rims elevations done,
grades and heights were all set, and maybe that layer didn’t get turned
on.
Member Houseman suggested tabling for drainage detail.
Motion by M. Houseman, supported by T. Greeno, to table this item for
2 weeks to get the drainage detail, etc. worked out with Scott Conners.
Motion carried unanimously.
Scott Conners stated that he would like to see 1’ of fall across the
back property of each lot line unless the sock with pea gravel under
drains are utilized between catch basins as suggested by Matt Cole.
Planner Wash stated that this item will be renoticed for the December
20th meeting.
Case #06-477: Fruit Ridge Industrial Park – Site Plan
Review
Chairman Hickey read the request for site plan approval for a
proposed 24,457 sq. ft. industrial building for property located at
(proposed address – 3731 Northridge) Lot #1 of Fruit Ridge Industrial
Park.
Planner Wash reviewed the staff report, the plans, and gave a
powerpoint presentation and related that this is the first proposed
industrial building for Visser Bros. Industrial Park. This is the
construction of Northridge Drive to the east. This will be site plan
review for a speculative building. The applicant added windows and
brick/block on the bottom of the building as an accent. Staff concerns
included the west wall façade and a buffering/fencing plan for the
Langholz lot.
Member Gornowich mentioned when we approved the beginning of the
early connection we directed staff to pursue further connection with
other property owners. She asked where staff was at with that? Planner
Wash stated it is moving slowly and that we have not engaged Consumers
Power or the other property owners yet. Chairman Hickey added that the
east end of Northridge will have a big effect on this.
Roger Faber, Architect representing Visser Bros., stated that the
proposal is for a 24,500 sq. ft. spec. industrial building on 2.44
acres. Faber stated that there is a market for smaller industrial
businesses. He then reviewed the list of concerns.
Scott Conners added that all but 1 of the concerns have been
addressed. He deferred this issue to Randy Feenstra, the concern about
access to this site while
Northridge is being constructed. We had asked for a separate access
so that the new road area is not contaminated. Roger Faber stated that
they did try to address around the north end of the detention pond.
Faber indicated that with regard to buffering of the Langholz
property, they are perfectly fine putting in a 6’ chain link fence along
the north property line about 450’ or the landscaping going up the east
property line adjacent to the residential property. He indicated that
the fence can be put in at this time but can’t landscape until the
development is complete.
Faber stated that on Sheets A1 & A2 they have added the overhang and
split face block.
Roger Faber asked if the neighbor Dave Langholz would write them a
letter in terms of what they want in terms of fencing, and landscaping?
Planner Wash reviewed these areas on the north-south property line
and the east-west property line where the fencing is proposed.
Chairman Hickey asked if staff and Roger Faber would meet with Mr.
Langholz and work out the concerns as noted above. Mr. Langholz agreed.
Mr. Langholz stated that he is concerned about a minimum sound
barrier, acceptable lighting and safety, and hopes to come up with an
agreement with a buffer berming with some vegetation for sound and light
and some form of fencing for security. He is hoping to achieve a
mutually acceptable way.
Mr. Faber stated that they are not willing to do both fencing and
Level C landscaping, as the developer does not think that both are
necessary.
Member Houseman felt that we need to get the fencing and landscaping
with a less stringent buffer of landscaping.
Member Rypma asked, why is fencing and landscaping too much? Mr.
Faber said the expense of it.
Mr. Langholtz stated that he prefers to meet and resolve. Planner
Wash added, if it reaches an impass, he will bring the issue back to the
Planning Commission.
Member Ferris-Young asked for an example of Type C landscaping?
Planner Wash related 8 evergreen trees + 8 evergreen shrubs per 100’.
Member Greeno stated he would like to see lighting like what the
University of Phoenix has. Member Houseman stated that is what they are
proposing.
In a discussion about the building façade, Chairman Hickey stated
that there was total of 7 windows proposed, with brick around the bottom
of the building. Roger Faber added the overhang on top. Chairman Hickey
stated that he would like to see more windows.
Member Houseman asked Mr. Faber how much a window would cost? Mr.
Faber stated that a 4x4 window would cost $200. Houseman asked Mr. Faber
to add 6 more windows.
Motion by M. Houseman, supported by C. Rypma, to approve the site
plan dated 10-26-06 for Lot #1 of the Visser Bros. Inc. Fruit Ridge
Industrial Park North, proposed for location at 3731 North Ridge Drive,
as it does meet the standards set forth in the City of Walker Zoning
Ordinance with the following conditions of Site Plan Approval:
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City Planning
Director’s letter dated 11-28-06.
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City
Engineer’s letter dated 11-28-06.
Additional condition: Buffer – Fence issue w/Langholz property –
Applicant to meet with Mr. Langholz and Frank Wash to resolve.
Addition condition: Westerly wall description: A total of 13
windows (4’x4’) will be placed on the west wall.
Motion carried 8-0.
M-11 Access Management Plan – final version
presentation
Pete LaMourie and Val Lazdins were present and gave a power point
summary. They introduced the project team which included the City of
Walker, MDOT Grand Region, GVMC, Kent County Road Commission, and the
Consultant Team: Progressive Architects & Engineers and LSL Planning.
Pete indicated that they put together an M-11 Access Management Plan
over the last 2 years. The overall idea of the MDOT plan was to make
M-11 a safer corridor section and preserve roadway capacity as long as
possible.
Pete LaMourie reviewed a brief summary including the topics, "Why did
we complete this Study and Plan", Study Goals and Objectives, the
Purposes of Public Workshops, What is Access Management? What are the
Steps Needed to Create an Access Management Plan, What are the Benefits
of Access Management? Safety, and Key Techniques: Safety. Capacity,
Aesthetics, How are Concepts Implemented? Policy Changes. How do we
Apply the Access Management Ordinance?
Member Houseman asked if there were any significant changes from the
last plan? Pete LaMourie stated there were no substantial changes.
Val Lazdins stated that the timing is good as this is coming to a
completion as the master plan is also coming to completion. He related
that this could be part of the master plan update. Once the master plan
is adopted and the Access Management Plan is accepted, then a zoning
ordinance amendment should be considered.
Two representatives from MDOT were present if there are any
questions.
Chairman Hickey asked Pete, Val, and MDOT reps to be available for
the next agenda item since it involves M-11.
Case #06-476 – Land & Company – Site Plan Review
Chairman Hickey read the application for site plan review for a
proposed Consumers concrete batch plant on Parcel A, and permanent
concrete crushing on Parcel B, for property located at 2648 Wilson.
Planner Wash reviewed the staff report and related that we are
combining the Consumers Concrete and concrete crushing files into one
review to allow us to plan comprehensively. This includes the New Era
Drive and improvements to M-11. The Phase I review tonight is for the
general road layout and M-11 issues. In the future, we will conduct a
detailed review of the 2 site plans.
Randy Feenstra was present on behalf of the applicant. He stated that
the main issue was the road, not the site plans. He has talked to MDOT,
and has tried to work with Shoemaker for joint access, but couldn’t
reach an agreement. He reviewed a schematic of the proposed New Era Dr.,
which is now a fixed location, the 660’ tapers and 250’ turn lane on
M-11, with no grades yet. Feenstra then reviewed the letter from Kara
Stein of MDOT, concurring with the Wade-Trim traffic report dated
7-7-06, which study recommended the following:
That the proposed public road be located 300 feet south of the
existing Shoemaker Trucking site driveway.
Both left and right turn lanes for the public road.
Mr. Feenstra reiterated that they tried to work with Shoemaker on
this proposed recommended access, to no avail.
Chairman Hickey asked Mr. Hibma to elaborate on the discussion with
Mr. Shoemaker. Hickey felt that the Shoemaker location would be ideal.
Dan Hibma stated that he met with Mr. Shoemaker 2-3 times and they
came to an impasse. He offered to have the property appraised and
Shoemaker had a different thought in mind.
In answer to a question, how will this road affect M-11, Mr. Feenstra
stated that the site distance from Shoemaker to this site at this point
had the best site distance.
The applicant’s traffic engineer reviewed a summary of her report and
related that, based on the ITE’s handbook, there were only 2 samples for
heavy industrial uses. She found a higher trip rate for a general light
industrial use, with more supporting data in the ITE Manual.
Member Houseman asked, with the speed coming down the hill, would it
be safe? The traffic engineer indicated yes, based on the design speed.
Houseman asked, what about truck acceleration? The traffic engineer
stated yes, they took that into account.
Member Ferris-Young stated that she cannot see trucks pulling out of
there with concrete without having huge back ups. Member Houseman added
that he is concerned about limiting access to make it safer, as we’ve
got to allow trucks to come out. Scott Conners added that the traffic
study looked at that.
Chairman Hickey discussed the future internal access north to Burton
for future residential development. He stated that the driveway the
applicant is proposing now is 300’, which in contradictory of the Access
Management Plan of 350’ to be safe, but that puts them into the wetland
and Grand River floodplain.
Chairman Hickey reviewed the number of daily trucks going in and out
of Shoemaker (25), the sand mining (50-80), Ready mix (90), and concrete
crushing (40). We have to make sure that the lefthand turn lane can
accommodate the stacking, and the righthand turn lane to the American
Legion Club.
Chairman Hickey stated that we have a choice of putting in a combined
driveway with the Shoemakers or infringing on filling in the wetlands.
He stated that every chance we get to combine driveways as noted in the
Access Management report, we should. Hickey felt that this is 41 acres
of a 192-acre development, and we are going to have a lot more traffic
going out. The first thing to look at is public safety. The site line of
45 mph from the legion post gives time for trucks to pull out and cross
2 lanes.
Chairman Hickey asked, why did the site owners bring in concrete to
crush? Hickey stated that we need a letter stating that this property is
clean and that it is premature for Kent County to issue a permit for a
driveway that is dangerous or that is in the wetlands. Hickey felt that
this is the first test of the Access Management plan with a reduction
between driveways from 300’-400’. We shouldn’t approve any road that
would endanger people. He felt that the only thing that makes this not
work is money. Hickey asked, how much money is a human life worth?
Member Houseman asked Keith Skilton of MDOT if the permit had been
issued? Mr. Skilton related no. Hickey stated that aligning the driveway
with Shoemaker is a good future for Weller and the internal road north
to Burton. Houseman stated that Shoemaker will benefit from both sides.
Dan Hibma stated that this is the best site distance access point,
and the public and private engineers agree.
Member Houseman asked, in the negotiations was Hibma willing to put
the driveway in at his expense? Hibma stated yes.
Member Houseman asked Keith Skilton from MDOT what was his stance on
this? Keith stated that as part of the Access Management study, he would
like to see shared driveways with Shoemaker and Fenske combining
driveways. However, Mr. Skilton stated that the Access Management study
is not law at this time. He agrees with the data the consultant gave us
regarding the site distance. They will compromise from 350’ to 300’
spacing based on reduced speed.
Dan Hibma reiterated that this is the best location for the access
and MDOT has to give reasonable access if no other access can be
obtained, and Shoemaker did not agree to shared access.
Member Houseman asked Mr. Skilton, is there authority to force the
situation? Mr. Skilton stated yes, the City can close the Shoemaker
access. Houseman stated that he would like to see shared access with
Shoemaker and this proposed access, and that the Shoemaker site would be
a better site. Mr. Skilton stated that if it goes to the Shoemaker site,
we would need a study to make sure it meets MDOT requirements.
Chairman Hickey stated, if MDOT hasn’t issued a permit yet, this
could still happen. For the welfare and safety of our people, he feels
that MDOT should not issue the permit until the driveway is in the right
place.
Member Houseman stated that he felt that Land & Co. has done an
outstanding job in trying to do what the City and residents have
requested.
Chairman Hickey stated that there is a resolution to this problem and
it ought to be taken.
Motion by M. Houseman, supported by C. Gornowich, to table this issue
in order for the developer to work out an agreement with the adjacent
property owner for shared access or provide the City with an MDOT curb
cut permit, and any of the open Brownfield issues to be resolved. Motion
carried 8-0.
Motion by C. Gornowich, supported by M. Houseman, to accept the M-11
Access Management Plan. The next steps will be routed through the
Ordinance Committee and master plan update process. Motion carried 7-1.
(Hickey – no)
Commissioner and Staff Update
Frank Wash reviewed items on the next agenda for December 20, 2006.
He also related that the next master plan for Sub-area 3B is scheduled
for January 10, 2007.
Adjournment
Motion by T. Greeno, supported by D. Brown, to adjourn at 10:30 p.m.
Motion carried.
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Administrative Approval Carol Gornowich, Secretary
Walker Planning Commission