Present: M. Huizenga, C. Gornowich, J. Hickey, Chairman; T. Byle, C.
Rypma, and S. Versluis. Absent: T. Schweitzer and D. Brown. Also
Present: F. Wash, Planning Director, S. Conners, City Engineer, and P.
Dlouhy, Planning Asst.
Chairman Hickey opened the meeting and C. Rypma gave the invocation.
Approval of Minutes – September 3, 2008
Motion by C. Gornowich, supported by M. Huizenga, to approve the
September 3, 2008 minutes as printed. Motion carried.
General Public Comment
There were no comments at this time.
Case #08-539 - Goodwill Store – Standale – Site Plan
Review
Chairman Hickey read the request for site plan approval for an
approximately 16,000 sq. ft. retail building at 4696 Lake Michigan Dr.
Planner Wash reviewed the staff report. He gave the history of this
site including 2 rezoning hearings and staff’s site plan review. Wash
related that the site is directly across from Uccello’s on M-45,
Rosedale Cemetery to the west, and vacant property east to Meijer. Wash
related that Craig Hondorp, ASLA, Progress A&E, was present on behalf of
the request.
Planner Wash related that staff has been working with the Goodale’s,
Meijer, and Goodwill on the service drive, as well as working with MDOT
regarding Ferndale at M-45 becoming a public road via the local access
management plan. Wash related that the service drive curve and extension
meets with the service drive’s dead end into Ferndale on the Meijer
site.
Wash reviewed the area of wetlands at the front of the site. He
indicated that the applicant proposes to construct a retail building for
a Goodwill Store of some 16,704 sq. ft. Goodwill also plans to
incorporate several LEED and LID features in the design, including rain
gardens and pervious concrete.
Planner Wash related that we need a recorded copy of the cross access
easement to the Goodale property to the east and to the Rosedale "backlot"
to the south as a condition of approval. Wash related that the early
cross access easement and shared driveway will initiate a service drive
through the Goodale property to the Meijer development.
Wash stated that landscaping is an issue, and provided sketch
examples with the staff report, consisting of trees near the
right-of-way plus two landscaped pods with retaining walls similar to
the proposed ground sign base.
Planner Wash related that the ground sign matches the ordinance
requirements. He reviewed a rendering of the proposed ground sign.
Chairman Hickey stated that a major gas line easement runs across
this property from a northwest to southeasterly direction diagonally
under the driveway.
Member Byle asked if the gas lines were shown on the drawings? Scott
Conners stated that he has seen them on other drawings. Planner Wash
reviewed the utility plans showing the location of the gas line
easement. Member Byle felt that every sheet should show the gas line
locations to avoid potential construction accidents.
Member Huizenga asked about the southbound road access easement and
what the parcels to the south look like? The cross-access is required
because the back property has no frontage. Wash felt that the service
drive aligns well for good truck maneuvering, as shown by the turning
templates.
Member Versluis asked Scott Conners to explain the wetland formula to
mitigate? Scott Conners stated that if the developer brings in a certain
amount of wetland fill, they need to mitigate. Scott explained the
ratios to Member Versluis’ satisfaction. This is an MDEQ permit issue.
Chairman Hickey stated that when Meijer went in, they put in a
detention pond. There is a tiny lake where Bill Burke has a storage
building on Pat Goodale’s property. The water runs that way toward
Sullivan Lake.
Member Rypma asked Scott Conners about Item No. 4 in his staff memo
regarding no stormwater calculations. Conners stated that he received
some revised calculations. Scott related that they will be utilizing
porous concrete with stone underdrain as a low impact development
technique. His concern is for zero impact on the neighbors. Scott
related that he will work through the detention via the stormwater
permit process, which is a balancing act. Low impact techniques are part
of that balancing act. The Planning Commission has to decide if they are
comfortable with that.
Craig Hondorp stated that Goodwill is trying to achieve LEED
certification, not only for the building but the site with low impact
development and energy efficiency. He related that this store is taking
a different approach, gearing toward the GVSU college crowd.
Mr. Hondorp reviewed the plans showing the entry off of Lake Michigan
Dr. as part of the shared access with the future shared drive to the
south. He indicated that the paving will stop a few hundred feet short
of the south property line. The driveway is off of that shared access
road with the front of the store facing Lake Michigan Drive. Mr. Hondorp
related that the donation drop off is located at the southeast corner of
the building with the loading dock on the back of the store. The truck
traffic will pull in and back up to the loading dock.
Mr. Hondorp related that they will utilize porous concrete with a
stone bed, which will hold several hundred cubic yards of rainfall
storage. He stated that there are existing site wetlands and woodlands
that would be maintained as well as the back end of the site.
Mr. Hondorp introduced the rain gardens as a pretreatment for storm
water coming off the access road and the site The rest of the water
would percolate into the stone base. He indicated that the amount of
wetland fill is .31 acres. They were able to obtain an MDEQ wetlands
permit for the first plan submitted and they resubmitted the plan and it
has been approved. The impact is slightly less than what was in the
original plan. The wetland permit had expired and they had to resubmit
it.
With respect to lighting, Mr. Hondorp related that they will use
metal cut-off fixtures, 20’ tall poles with 3’ bases. The proposed
monument sign was moved back due to fiber-optics and site distance
issues. Because of the way the grade falls off to the wetlands, they
will utilize a retaining wall. Mr. Hondorp stated that he doesn’t have
any problems with Planner Wash’s conditions of approval, with the
additional landscaping, recorded easement documents. Goodwill will work
with the DPW in terms of the DDA lighting and irrigation.
Mr. Hondorp stated if the porous concrete alternative is a "budget
buster", they would be looking at asphalt with underground storage under
the parking lot.
Their preference is for the porous concrete as opposed to impervious
asphalt.
He reviewed the building elevations and indicated that the building
materials used are brick on the corners, entry on the east elevation,
around the donation drop off, and on the west elevation at the corner.
The lower level below the blue band consists of clear glass, and above
it translucent glazing. The masonry is earth tone colors. EIFS material
in the tan-beige color range will be utilized.
Mr. Hondorp related that he will provide any additional drainage
calculations that Scott Conners needs as a condition of approval.
Chairman Hickey asked if a geo-textile product would be used to keep
separate between the stone and surface of the parking lot? Mr. Hondorp
explained yes, that the porous concrete looks like a "rice cake" made
out of concrete. Hickey asked if oil would be filtered through that
system first? Mr. Hondorp stated yes, part of the filtration in terms of
water quality is the rain garden design.
Member Rypma asked if rain gardens would be maintained or the
vegetation mowed? Mr. Hondorp stated that the rain gardens on the east
side shows a seed garden with sedge grasses and native wildflowers, and
would be mowed once a year.
Member Gornowich asked how much experience do we have with this type
of porous concrete? Scott Conners stated that we have none, but Eaton
Rapids has experience with porous concrete. There are benefits to it
such as no need for detention underneath, not as much snow and plowing.
It does have to be maintained (vacuumed once or twice a year). Member
Byle added that porous concrete is used a lot in Denver, CO. He related
that the freeze-thaw hasn’t been an issue as water doesn’t sit there, it
goes through. Member Gornowich asked, how do we maintain the integrity
of the porousness over the years, as the plows will come in and do
damage? Member Byle stated that a small patch wouldn’t be detrimental.
Scott Conners added if they use a tar mixture for the fix it could be a
problem. We require a stormwater maintenance agreement and would require
maintenance once a year. Currently, we do not require verification that
they do the maintenance. It was determined that the owner would be
responsible if the storm water maintenance agreement is violated.
Chairman Hickey asked why they are stopping the driveway short of the
property line to the south? Craig Hondorp stated that they didn’t feel
it was necessary. They are 300’ short of the property line. Chairman
Hickey asked if we would be in a position to accept a gravel road? Scott
Conners stated that we do not know how, when, or if the property to the
south will be developed.
Member Byle stated that if the road extends west from the gas
station, this developer should pay for their portion of that road. He
asked if staff was ok with the location of the dumpster? Planner Wash
stated it was discussed at staff review. Craig Hondorp added that they
wanted the dumpster closer to the building, but when they checked out
maneuverability, the other option north of the loading dock worked
better. Trucks will be coming during off hours when the parking lot is
not full and can maneuver ok. Planner Wash stated it is not perfect but
acceptable, given the turning template model.
Motion by C. Rypma, supported by C. Gornowich, to approve the site
plan dated 9-8-08 for Goodwill at 4696 Lake Michigan Drive (PPN
41-13-30-100-001), as it does not meet the standards set forth in the
City of Walker Zoning Ordinance, with the following conditions of site
plan approval:
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City Planning
Director’s letter dated 9-9-08.
The applicant agrees to all conditions noted in the City
Engineer’s letter dated 9-10-08.
Goodwill agrees to construct drive to the south lot line if
needed – recorded agreement.
All gas lines shown on all sheets.
Motion carried unanimously 6-0.
Case #08-541 – United Rentals – 2122 Turner - Site
Plan Review
Chairman Hickey read the application requesting site plan approval
for a 70.53 sq. ft. wall sign on the east elevation of the building
facing US-131, located at 2122 Turner, N.W.
Planner Wash reviewed the staff report. He indicated that when we
modified the sign ordinance we talked about wall signage, where it was
allowed, and how many signs. Wall signage is only allowed on the front
street side of the building and only on the front wall. Wash related
that this building has 2 fronts, on Turner and the back fronts on
US-131. This request is before us at the planning commission, as noted
in the sign ordinance.
Planner Wash stated the two issues. The Turner Avenue frontage has
existing wall signage. It is limited to 80 sq. ft. according to the
code. If we provide them the ability to have another wall sign on
US-131, they would be over 80 sq. ft. allowed. A variance would be
required.
Planner Wash then reviewed photos of the existing wall sign on the
southwest corner of the building; the existing pylon along US-131, and
the existing pylon along Turner Ave.
Planner Wash stated from a staff standpoint, the business has a
reasonable amount of existing signs. If permitted, the applicant would
have to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a square footage allowance
for this second wall sign..
Member Huizenga stated if we were to take out the pylon sign on
US-131, then put an attractive sign on the building, it would be less
cluttered. Planner Wash stated that if you swap pylon signs for the wall
signs, you would be back to "square one" with the square footages, as
they already have a wall sign on Turner. The pylon sign is visible from
US-131.
Member Gornowich asked when Planner Wash did the billboard inventory,
did the existing rear pylon sign count? Wash stated no, this is on-site
signage. Gornowich asked if they took that one down, would this open up
enough space for another billboard? Planner Wash stated there has to be
1,000 feet between billboards. Wash related that this is likely a
non-conforming pylon sign along US-131.
Member Versluis felt that too much signage is overkill. He gave
examples of other sites with too much signage that he felt is an
eyesore.
Member Gornowich stated given the site conditions and distances, she
would like to hear from the applicant.
Bobby Graff, United Rentals, stated that the wall sign letters would
be internally illuminated and be more attractive.
Member Byle stated that you can’t see the proposed wall sign from the
expressway because it is behind the berm. Chairman Hickey added that you
can’t see the building from the expressway and he doesn’t feel that the
proposed sign will help.
Chairman Hickey stated that the applicant could appeal to the Zoning
Board of Appeals. He suggested that the applicant illuminate the
existing pylon sign.
Motion by C. Gornowich, supported by T. Byle, to deny the
request for a wall sign facing US-131 for United Rentals at 2122 Turner
Avenue NW, as it does not meet the standards set forth in the City of
Walker Zoning Ordinance for signs with the following findings of fact:
The proposed wall signage is not necessary as the site has
adequate signage currently in place via the two existing pylon signs
and one existing wall sign.
Motion carried unanimously 6-0.
Commissioner & Staff Update
Planner Wash related that there will not be a meeting on October 1st.
He reviewed the upcoming items for the October 15th agenda
including Avastar CPUD FASP; Andy Mast Greenhouse addition; Fruit Ridge
Industrial Park Lot 3 spec. building; and possibly T-Mobile cell tower
at the Mines Golf Course.